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Learning to Notice People Like Jesus Did: The Ministry of Presence

Becci and Andrew sit down with Grant to unpack the parable of the rich man and Lazarus from Luke 16, and discover why Lazarus is the only person Jesus names by name in any of his parables. Grant shares what this story taught him about noticing the person right in front of him, drawing on his years of experience in sport chaplaincy and life in Auckland. This conversation explores what it means to live out the ministry of presence rather than always rushing to fix things.

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